I googled "jehovah's witnesses 607 bce"
And the rest, as they say, is history.
the influx of new posters made me wonder if the push to view jw.org is helping curious ones find this support site?.
please post whether you found jwn during an internet search or if someone told you about it.. i myself was directed here by a df'd family member once i shared my doubts with that person..
I googled "jehovah's witnesses 607 bce"
And the rest, as they say, is history.
last month, my best friend of four years and boyfriend of six months came home from a jehovah's witness convention.
he'd been acting strangely the entire weekend and i knew something was wrong.
i initiated a discussion and he said, "essentially our relationship is wrong and i'm not supposed to be with you.
Yes, it sucks, but please understand that he's broken. Most of us here are still dealing with the effects of the brainwashing years later. If you get in contact with him again, you'll need to be prepared to make a decision. Either help him understand that he's in a cult, or let him go. The former is a lot of work, and will likely not work.
http://www.science20.com/writer_on_the_edge/blog/scientists_discover_that_atheists_might_not_exist_and_thats_not_a_joke-139982.
Just read it... Garbage. An intelligent believer would still find this contemptible. You should be ashamed for even posting that link on here.
i thought it was high time to introduce myself (without my name of course).
as my name would suggest i have been reading your intriguing post, thoughts and discussions for some time now.
around 3/4 months to be exact.. i guess to start with it would seem fitting to give a little background on my current situation.. i'm a born-in, but have over the last few years found that through a number of varying occurences, (some of which i may discuss in future posts) that my 'zeal' has gone from regular field service and meetings to no service in over a year and very sporadic meeting attendance.
Lurker!
You are one of the lucky ones. So many on here including myself are still struggling years later to help their mate see TTATT.
That being said, I'd say it is morally incumbent upon you to share how you approached your wife, or at least how you two shared your doubts and researched together.
the present moment is real.
however much you may remember the past or anticipate the future, you live in the present.
the next second of your life is the future.
Prologos, I was addressing givemejustalittlemoretime, not you. Sorry
Who else evangelizes to the extent that each and every JW does?
Lots of evangelicals, etc. some groups do it with charity instead of bothering people at home. Hell, the baptist church has almost as many missionaries as the JWs have members! Maybe they're god's org?
What do you think would happen if preaching were made less of a show? Take away pioneer designations, counting hours, etc. you'd see millions of JWs cut back, and millions more quit preaching altogether. Every cult pushes hard on recruitment. That's the only way they stay alive.
a watcher, how is it that god's organization is doing so much preaching, but barely any recruitment? Over half of born in children don't get baptized, and over 100,000 people LEAVE every year. How is this a sign of divine direction and blessing?
Please reply as I've never heard a decent answer to this.
Let the memes begin!
the present moment is real.
however much you may remember the past or anticipate the future, you live in the present.
the next second of your life is the future.
You sure do make an effort to sound smart!
Troll
ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).
but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.
yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......
Ah. Just show up for the morning group, claim to have a couple calls to do, and head out for your 10:30 tee time at your favourite course. August is too nice to waste sweating into your suit clothes knocking on doors and bothering people.
i realize some people feel they can't just leave the religion.
they have family, friends, position.. some elders mistakenly believe that they might be able to reform the cult from within.
the truth is, the religion is never really going to change.
So let me put it out to my fellow JWNers.
I woke up early 2012. Took my time, devouring all info I could about why and how to leave this religion. I hide nothing from my wife, who knows exactly how I feel. She remains on the sidelines for fear of losing family and friends, and as a result has done no research about anything non-JW. She doesn't want to be a JW without me per se, but puts out relationship above all else. We have very few close JW friends nearby, we go to maybe one meeting a month and she goes maybe 2 hrs/month in service.
My question: is it better for me to continue loosely affiliated, hoping she starts to research? Do I push the issue more? Or do I quit going altogether, lose my one remaining (good) JW friend and hopefully pushing her hand? Is the potential gain in intellectual honesty with myself worth the potential fallout with my wife?